@SuperDicq "I don't see the link between giving transgender people rights and an increase of rape. There's nothing in common with these two things."
Try telling that to the Scottish women who went to a female prison and were raped by men who committed crimes and later came out as trans and were put into the same prison as women. Who had to share a cell with them, some of them have been raped. Just go and watch the protest in Glasgow for let women speak. These are real concerns because scotland enabled self-identity. Those women wouldn't have been raped if this weren't allowed. How can you not see the link?
"Yes, healthy societies tend to silence those who discriminate."
Then why is it discriminating against females that need female-only spaces? Then again, we don't have a healthy society right now.
"Just like how neonazis don't meet in public because their views are not acceptable, the same applies here."
Oh, so when gay men and lesbians had to meet in private because the law discriminated against them, was that just like neonazis not meeting in public? Because lesbians have to do this now. This was another talking point mentioned.
"No, I don't agree with violence like this, but I do think what happened is not surprising given the circumstances. It's not absurd to me that people who could have their rights to very necessary things like healthcare and livelihood taken away from them would go there to oppose these ideas."
And it doesn't surprise me that females gather in a space when their own healthcare and livelihood are either at great risk or taken away either. No one wins this way. If trans people wanted to gather to protest for their rights and to talk in a public gathering, I would support that right. Under no circumstances should people do to them what has been done here. There is no excuse to surround, intimidate, cancel out with loud noises and shouting, to throw soup at, leave a threatening letter or physically attack someone for having a different viewpoint. It is absurd to me that you would not be surprised and even defend this. When this always happens, it's not good enough for us to say we don't agree... there is no room to excuse this behaviour for any protest.
"That's just not how toilets work. Nobody should come in the toilet with you, cis or trans, that's why toilet stalls have locks on them. This has nothing to do with gender."
Really? Do you not realise that males have enough strength to force their way into toilet stalls? Not every toilet is as safe as we'd like them to be. This is a real example. Can you imagine how you'd feel if it happened to you while you were in a vulnerable position, sitting on a toilet with your trousers down, and someone manages to shove your door open? Or how about being a child, maybe about 12, and someone takes a photo of you while you are in the toilet stall? Another real example. Sometimes sex matters, whether we'd like it to or not.
"What's the point on separating spaces based on sex anyway? What genitals you have don't affect anything outside of having sex."
For safety, that's why. You are in a vulnerable position when you are on the toilet or when you are changing. Especially when it comes being a child, where you can be groomed and don't understand consent or your boundaries.